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I Can’t Stand That Place

Writer: Deric Hollings
Deric Hollings
10 minutes ago
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On the collaborative studio album Mona Lisa (2018), by the formidable lyricist Joell Ortiz and the talented music producer Apollo Brown, is the song “That Place”. As though he’s speaking to someone via telephone, Ortiz states on the introduction of the track:

 

Here we go again, huh?

I[’ll] meet you over there

I can’t stand that place, man

Never know what’s gon’ happen in there, man

Good news, bad news, shit!

 

The song addresses Ortiz’s displeasure with hospitals, detailing how positive and negative narratives are often associated with his visits to facilities of physical care. Now, I’ll use his belief (“can’t stand”) to demonstrate a component of Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy (REBT).

 

REBT uses the ABC model to illustrate that when an undesirable Action occurs and you Believe an unhelpful narrative about the event, it’s your unfavorable assumption, not the occurrence itself, that causes an unpleasant Consequence. This is known as distress or disturbance.

 

Noteworthy, with virtually any undesirable Action that occurs, it’s your unfavorable Beliefs which cause unpleasant distress or disturbance (Consequence). Given this framing of self-distress and self-disturbance, it’s worth noting that one REBT source states (page 71):

 

REBT conceptualizes [distress] as healthy even though it is intense. Other approaches to therapy have as their goal the reduction of the intensity of negative emotions. They take this position because they do not keenly differentiate between healthy negative emotions (distress) and unhealthy negative emotions (disturbance).

 

Now, REBT keenly distinguishes between healthy distress and unhealthy disturbance. Healthy distress stems from your rational beliefs about a negative activating event [Action], whilst disturbance stems from your irrational beliefs about the same event.

 

Complete elimination of distress is highly unlikely in an impermanent and uncertain world, wherein people conceptually suffer, struggle, and battle with, or merely experience hardship. Still, individuals often make matters worse for themselves by disturbing about such instances.

 

In particular, there are four predominate irrational beliefs which people often use to distress or disturb themselves: global evaluations, low frustration tolerance (LFT), awfulizing, and demandingness. When contemplating these unproductive beliefs, think of the acronym GLAD.

 

For this blogpost, it’s worth noting that a belief in which Ortiz maintains that “I can’t stand that place” regards an LFT narrative. As an example, when using this unaccommodating perspective, it’s as though the lyricist is convinced that he literally cannot tolerate hospitals.

 

Worth noting, there are two forms of should, must, and ought demands with which people most often distress or disturb – associated with use of absolutistic and conditional beliefs. Generally speaking, these scripts serve as inflexible commands used toward oneself, others, and life.

 

An absolute must narrative is, “You absolutely must do as I say!” A conditional should narrative is, “Either you should do as I say, or you should be punished!” Noteworthy, in REBT literature, demandingness of this sort is said to function as a primary appraisal mechanism of self-upset.

 

Global evaluations (i.e., self-downing, other-downing, and life-downing), low frustration tolerance (also known as frustration intolerance), and awfulizing (e.g., terrible, horrible, etc.) function as secondary appraisal mechanisms. Together, GLAD will make you sad or mad, etc.

 

While still functioning as prescriptive rather than descriptive, flexible use of recommendatory, preferential, ideal, empirical, moral and ethical, and legal ought beliefs won’t inevitably cause disturbance, as they may align with distress. Rigidity versus flexibility makes a difference.

 

Additionally, from a psychological standpoint, people distress or disturb themselves using a Belief-Consequence (B-C) connection. Of course, this isn’t to suggest that in the context of the naturalistic or physical world there is no Action-Consequence (A-C) connection.

 

From an A-C view, people who seek care at hospitals (Action) sometimes end up dying (Consequence). However, hypothetically speaking, it’s Ortiz’s B-C connection (i.e., LFT script) with which he self-disturbs, causing his own negative, but unhealthy aversion to hospitals.

 

Theoretically, Ortiz receives notification that someone is in the hospital (Action) and he unhelpfully Believes, “Hospitals are worthless [G], and I can’t stand that people sometimes die in them [L], as that’s horrible [A], so I absolutely mustn’t go to facilities of physical care [D]!”

 

This unproductive GLAD narrative can be summed up as “I can’t stand that place,” as expressed by Ortiz on the song “That Place”. When using this unfavorable Belief, the lyricist would tentatively cause his own negative, but unhealthy aversion to hospitals (Consequence).

 

Addressing how people upset themselves with unhelpful attitudes, the ABC model incorporates Disputation of unproductive philosophies of life in order to explore Effective new beliefs. Whereas rigid beliefs cause self-disturbance, flexible beliefs result in an un-disturbed condition.

 

Ultimately, on Mona Lisa, Ortiz doesn’t theoretically paint a pretty picture regarding his LFT outlook pertaining to hospitals. Now, I invite you to consider this psychoeducational lesson on the ABC model, so that you can paint a healthier picture regarding your own worldview.

 

If you’re looking for a provider who tries to work to help understand how thinking impacts physical, mental, emotional, and behavioral elements of your life—helping you to sharpen your critical thinking skills, I invite you to reach out today by using the contact widget on my website.

 

As the world’s foremost hip hop-influenced REBT psychotherapist, I’m pleased to try to help people with an assortment of issues from anger (hostility, rage, and aggression) to relational issues, adjustment matters, trauma experience, justice involvement, attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, anxiety and depression, and other mood or personality-related matters.

 

At Hollings Therapy, LLC, serving all of Texas, I aim to treat clients with dignity and respect while offering a multi-lensed approach to the practice of psychotherapy and life coaching. My mission includes: Prioritizing the cognitive and emotive needs of clients, an overall reduction in client suffering, and supporting sustainable growth for the clients I serve. Rather than simply trying to help you to feel better, I want to try to help you get better!

 

 

Deric Hollings, LPC, LCSW


 

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