Can’t Win for Losing: Hopelessness and Despair

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On the third studio album, Getback (2007), by hip hop group Little Brother (lyricists Phonte and Big Pooh, and producer 9th Wonder) is the song “Can’t Win for Losing” which was produced by !llmind. Before exploring a portion of the song’s content, I’ll address the track’s namesake.

Per one source, the phrase “can’t win for losing” means that the “odds are stacked against me. (Or no matter how much I try, I never succeed.).” This is a matter of hopelessness (the perception that one will not experience positive emotions or an improvement in one’s condition).

Regarding this uncomfortable experience, one source states, “You may believe that your mood will never change—that you will always feel depressed. Or you may feel hopeless about ever finding a rewarding relationship or about achieving other goals that you think are essential.”

People experiencing hopelessness may also endure despair (the emotion or feeling of hopelessness, that is, that things are profoundly wrong and will not change for the better). Regarding this uneasy experience, one source states:

When you’re agonizing under the weight of despair, simple tasks feel daunting; getting out of bed, showering, or leaving the house requires herculean effort. To live with despair means to wake up every morning with a heaviness pressing down on your chest and a feeling of exhaustion no matter how many hours you slept.

Before learning about Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy (REBT), my friend “Bosco” helped me during a time when I endured hopelessness and despair. A fellow military veteran with whom I worked in the field of nuclear security, Bosco shared my fondness for gallows humor.

Following my divorce, rather than recoiling when hearing expressions of suicidal ideation (thoughts about or a preoccupation with killing oneself) or homicidal ideation (thoughts about or a preoccupation with killing others), Bosco shared dark humor jokes with me.

Along with my late stepmom, Bosco played a major role in the outcome of two people remaining able to walk the Earth till this day. I’m grateful for his support! Now that I know of and engage in daily practice of REBT (e.g., this blogpost), I consider the track “Can’t Win for Losing”.

On the outro of the song, a woman states, “What is Jamal’s password? I know he wouldn’t cheat on me.” The sounds of typing are heard, as though she continually tries to figure out a password of her intimate partner’s email.

Eventually, the woman states, “Yes! I knew it! He always uses his birthdate. JNasty324. I knew it, I knew… oh, hell no! Who the fuck is TastyDiamond69@yahoo!? Alright, alright, gotta stay calm. Gotta stay calm. I didn’t read it yet.” Unfavorably, her self-talk doesn’t lead to calmness.

The woman thusly concludes, “And why is he emailin’ her back? Mmmm-mmm, I see this got replied to. Meet… meet at the… oh, mmmm-mmm. This nigga ‘bout to get it! Where my shank at!? Oh, hell n—[sound of static].” I can laugh at the fact that this is an experience I also had.

During one of several instances during which I discovered that my wife had continued cheating on me since we began dating, and apparently throughout our marriage, I found an email exchange between another man and her. I, too, was prepared to engage in unhealthy behavior.

REBT uses the ABC model to illustrate that when an undesirable Action occurs and you Believe an unhelpful narrative about the event, it’s your unfavorable assumption, not the occurrence itself, that causes an unpleasant Consequence. This is known as distress or disturbance.

Noteworthy, with virtually any undesirable Action that occurs, it’s your unfavorable Beliefs which cause unpleasant distress or disturbance (Consequence). Given this framing of self-distress and self-disturbance, it’s worth noting that one REBT source states (page 71):

REBT conceptualizes [distress] as healthy even though it is intense. Other approaches to therapy have as their goal the reduction of the intensity of negative emotions. They take this position because they do not keenly differentiate between healthy negative emotions (distress) and unhealthy negative emotions (disturbance).

Now, REBT keenly distinguishes between healthy distress and unhealthy disturbance. Healthy distress stems from your rational beliefs about a negative activating event [Action], whilst disturbance stems from your irrational beliefs about the same event.

Complete elimination of distress is highly unlikely in an impermanent and uncertain world wherein people conceptually suffer, struggle, and battle with, or merely experience hardship. Still, individuals often make matters worse for themselves by disturbing about such instances.

In particular, there are four predominate irrational beliefs which people often use to distress or disturb themselves: global evaluations, low frustration tolerance, awfulizing, and demandingness. When contemplating these unproductive scripts, think of the acronym GLAD.

Additionally, from a psychological standpoint, people distress or disturb themselves using a Belief-Consequence (B-C) connection. Of course, this isn’t to suggest that in the context of the naturalistic or physical world there is no Action-Consequence (A-C) connection.

From an A-C view, my wife emailed back and forth with another man (Action), as she used that method of communication for one of her relatively many affairs (Consequence). Yet, her infidelity didn’t cause my experience with hopelessness and despair. The B-C connection did!

I discovered the unfaithful email exchange (Action), Believed, “I’m worthless [G], as even she can’t stand me [L], because I’m awful [A], so maybe neither of us should live any longer [D].” With that unaccommodating outlook, I then endured hopelessness and despair (Consequence).

Addressing how people upset themselves with unhelpful attitudes, the ABC model incorporates Disputation of unproductive philosophies of life in order to explore Effective new beliefs. Whereas rigid beliefs cause self-disturbance, flexible beliefs result in an un-disturbed condition.

Regrettably, I didn’t know of REBT when experiencing a similar scenario as what was depicted in “Can’t Win for Losing”. Still, regarding the email discovery, I had the wherewithal to call a friend to come to my home and retrieve the single firearm that I owned at the time (Glock 21C).

Imagine me having known that REBT uses unconditional acceptance (UA) to relieve self-induced suffering. This is accomplished through use of unconditional self-acceptance (USA), unconditional other-acceptance (UOA), and unconditional life-acceptance (ULA).

Whereas the ABC model is a scientific approach to wellness, UA serves as a philosophical method for un-disturbing yourself. I view the former as an abortive approach to disturbance and the latter as a preventative method. Of course, not all REBT practitioners use the same style as I.

With my approach to REBT, I incorporate author Stephen Covey’s concepts regarding the circles of control, influence, and concern, as well as an area of no concern. UA maps onto the circle of control (USA), circle of influence (UOA), and circle of concern and area of no concern (ULA).

The circle of control encompasses only oneself, the circle of influence encapsulates elements which may be subject to one’s sway, the circle of concern engrosses most matters one can imagine, and the area of no concern relates to all content which isn’t yet imagined.

Regarding my circle of control and USA, I would’ve understood that the only thing I controlled when having been cheated on during my marriage was my reaction to the affair. Concerning my circle of influence and UOA, I would’ve comprehended that my wife was as fallible as I was.

Relating to my circle of concern and ULA, I would’ve reasoned that with limited exceptions (e.g., death), there are no guarantees in life. As for my area of no concern, an imaginary realm in which spouses don’t cheat, I live in this world, not that one, so it’s a pointless consideration.

Perhaps you can learn from my unpleasant past experience, as I unhelpfully believed that I couldn’t win for losing while experiencing hopelessness and despair. Not everyone has a friend like Bosco to support them, so maybe you can learn self-empowerment to support yourself.

If you’re looking for a provider who tries to work to help understand how thinking impacts physical, mental, emotional, and behavioral elements of your life—helping you to sharpen your critical thinking skills, I invite you to reach out today by using the contact widget on my website.

As a psychotherapist, I’m pleased to try to help people with an assortment of issues ranging from anger (hostility, rage, and aggression) to relational issues, adjustment matters, trauma experience, justice involvement, attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, anxiety and depression, and other mood or personality-related matters.

At Hollings Therapy, LLC, serving all of Texas, I aim to treat clients with dignity and respect while offering a multi-lensed approach to the practice of psychotherapy and life coaching. My mission includes: Prioritizing the cognitive and emotive needs of clients, an overall reduction in client suffering, and supporting sustainable growth for the clients I serve. Rather than simply trying to help you to feel better, I want to try to help you get better!

Deric Hollings, LPC, LCSW

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